John and Lynn speak with Dr. Mike Casale, VP of Analytics and Behavioral Science at Penumbra. This company provides VR (virtual reality) immersive experiences for people that suffer from depression, anxiety, physical pain, loneliness, and age-related challenges. VR experiences are provided and monitored by experienced health care professionals.
Then, Anna Lembke M.D., Medical Director of Addiction Medicine at Stanford University joins the show. She has just written Dopamine Nation. Dr. Lembke explores exciting new scientific discoveries that explain why the relentless pursuit of pleasure leads to pain, while also offering practical solutions for how to manage compulsive overconsumption, providing a clear way back to a balanced life.