John and co-host Steve Joyce speak with Gretchen Bakke, author of The Grid: The Fraying Wires Between Americans and Our Energy Future. America's electrical grid, an engineering triumph of the twentieth century, is turning out to be a poor fit for the present. It's not just that the grid has grown old and is now in dire need of basic repair. Today, as we invest great hope in new energy sources--solar, wind, and other alternatives--the grid is what stands most firmly in the way of a brighter energy future.

The second guest on the program is Mary Aiken, author of The Cyber Effect: A Pioneering Cyber psychologist Explains How Human Behavior Changes Online. Mary Aiken is the world’s leading expert in forensic cyber psychology—a discipline that combines psychology, criminology, and technology to investigate the intersection where technology and human behavior meet. In this, her first book, Aiken has created a starting point for all future conversations about how the Internet is shaping development and behavior, societal norms and values, children, safety, security, and our perception of the world.